And with that, I am going to proceed to talk about racism. Oops.
(There are a lot of posts I’ve copy-pasted into this. For the sake of clarity, my responses will be written in bold italics and out of the quotation field. Original posts by ragingsocialist, digitaloverdrive, jethroq and humanformat will be left as originally posted, within the quotation field.)
If You’re Actually Worried about ‘Anti-White’
You’re really really stupid.
Most people who cry about bawwww the white genocide maaaan claim to not actually hate other races/cultures/people, just that ‘OH NO ALL THE PURE WHITE BABIES T_T WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO’
You do actually hate other races.
The only reason you’d not want white people to be a minority is if you don’t like other races.
Seriously. If you don’t think other races are worse, then why do you care if they’re over here instead of over there? Why do you care if people are having mixed-race kids?
OH THAT’S RIGHT.
It’s because you think that teh black people/teh azuns are lower than white people.
EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF SCIENCE
EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF ANTHROPOLOGYPOINTS TO RACE NOT BEING ANY FACTOR AT ALL IN THE SUCCESS OF SOCIETIES.
Go read a history book and stop fapping to the celtic cross.
Personally, I do not believe that there is any kind of ‘white genocide’ going on, and I hold the belief that skin colour is an evolutionary adaptation to the environment in which our ancestors have lived.
However, your post does exude an ignorance of the fact that to be concerned about your own race’s demise (imagined or otherwise) does not equate to being racist. Welsh people protesting for their own language to be taught in schools are not discriminating against the English speakers in Wales; the Muslims petitioning to have a mosque built in New York are not discriminatory towards people of other (or no) faiths. To say that you feel that your race is under threat of genocide is not racism UNLESS you follow your statement of concern by saying that you believe that it is in fact the other races who should be exterminated.
I don’t care either way about race, but check out the double standards on display. If this was about black babies disappearing, we’d all be in pseudo-liberal uproar and hanging some “white devils” that must be somehow responsible. This is not humanism.
In all fairness, ragingsocialist’s post doesn’t actually include any ‘double standards’, only potentially vague implications of them.
But ‘white babies’ are not disappearing. There’s just more black people in Europe and America because we trashed those countries during the colonial era. If white people went to Africa/Asia - again, nothing would really happen. There wouldn’t be an uproar, and chances are Africans/Asians wouldn’t even be under any major threat.
Also anyway black babies arn’t disappearing anyway - and stop using words like that - they’re not disappearing because they were never there in the first place. All that’s happening is that a slightly higher percentage of non-white babies are now being born. That’s it. Sometimes, GOD FORBID, a mixed-race child is born. Get over it.
You don’t appear to have read digitaloverdrive’s post at all. You’ve clearly seen on the phrase “babies disappearing,” and run with it. His point is clearly that you would have reacted differently to seeing a post saying that there was a genocide of the black race and that therefore your attack on people warning about a white genocide is hypocritical.
Uh… dissapearing? Are you inhabiting the same reality as we are? What’s happening is that white families are having less children, at an older age„ while families of color have more at a younger age. It’s a basic demographic shift, and is based on economic factors. The richer you are, the more it costs to raise a child in your lifestyle.
I am copy-pasting my response to ragingsocialist because you’ve made exactly the same mistake as ragingsocialist.
You don’t appear to have read digitaloverdrive’s post at all. You’ve clearly seen on the phrase “babies disappearing,” and run with it. His point is clearly that ragingsocialist would have reacted differently to seeing a post saying that there was a genocide of the black race and that therefore his attack on people warning about a white genocide is hypocritical.
In that case, I really don’t get why anyone is upset by the core “issue” here. I’m just jumping on any liberal blog post that is, or seems to be upon first glance, using racism against racism.
Because some people think that whites > non-whites and get all upset with non-whites actually live in places where they used to not live. I’m not trying to say you’re racist or anything that’d be silly; but saying ‘aha double standard!’ isn’t an argument, because there isn’t really one there.
Saying ‘double standard’ is actually a valid argument, since double standards are a logical fallacy. However, since you did not show a double standard, digitaloverdrive’s argument is not valid.
In terms of numbers what ‘white genocide’ or ‘white children disappearing’ actually means is that there’s just a higher percentage of non-whites being born than were previously. Now bear in mind that the percentage of white people in the UK (as an example, where I live) is ~91%, it’s not like the white race is going anywhere soon. Also in most cases, the actual number of white children born is pretty much exactly the same as if there weren’t any non-whites in the country - so it doesn’t really matter. All it means is that people have to start being nice to people who look a bit different.
*Sigh.* You were doing so well. Again, digitaloverdrive is not giving credence to the idea of an ongoing ‘white genocide’.
Herp a derp.
There is no racism against white people.
I’d say something here, but you already contradict yourself below.
Racism is a system of systematic oppression, based on a historical power dynamic.
Well actually, the system of systematic oppression, like segregation in pre-Civil Rights era America or Apartheid in South Africa, is an inherently racist system. Racism itself is not the system, just a description of the system.
White people weren’t colonized, enslaved, forcibly relocated, legistlated a second-class status, or haven’t been target of long term, systematic negative bias from schools, employers, businesses, law enforcement, courts and penile system.
This is completely untrue. The white race has shown itself to be more than capable of brutally oppressing other white people too. Just look at pretty much the entire history of Europe.
Also, a side note: to blame solely the white race for slavery is to ignore the slavery that has been conducted all over the world by a multitude of cultures and races. How do you think the pyramids got built?
A side note to this side note: what’s a penile system? Is it responsible for judging men’s genitalia? Or did you mean penal system?
Does anti-white prejudice exist? Yes. Does it matter?
Yes. Unequivocally yes.
Well, if someone is harmed just for being white, yeah, but you can be sure that even then, privilege will come to the white person’s favor, as a POC-on-white hate crime will much more likely be investigated, prosecuted, and end with a jail sentance, than the opposite.
This is unfounded. Reports of racist attacks on whites are frequently not followed up and often kept out of the media for fear of the media and the police being accused of racism themselves.
Instead of systematically whining about reverse racism on Tumblr, maybe spend five minutes thinking of why people of color distrust white people.
Because they are being racist. Duh.
Because of posts like yours that attach an unpleasant history and assumption to me merely based on my skin, even though I have NOTHING to do with the history of my race. I also could not care less about the history of my race, or any race.
This. So much this. You wouldn’t hold someone accountable for the actions of their murderer father, so why should you hold someone accountable for the actions of their race that took place centuries ago?
Also it’s not reverse racism - that’s a superfluous phrase - it’s just plain racism. Simply a discrimination based on race, like, say, assuming I’m not to be trusted as I have somehow inherited an unsavoury history and anyone belonging to a minority is automatically of insurmountably higher virtue than I. I just wish for blogs bitching about equality to actually consider all people equally unless they prove themselves malicious or something.
Deny your history all you want, but Britain today still prefits from centuries of imperialism. You were able to build your society based on stealing land, people and resources from half the globe. And Ireland.
I’m not saying, and no one is, that you should hate white people. I’m white myself. What I’m saying, and many others, much more well spoken than me, and coming from personal experience as people of color, are saying is that if you are white, you have to be aware of the inherent privilege you have for being white.
Equality doesn’t mean pretending historical baggage doesn’t exist (and then blaming people of color for their own misfortune). And believe it or not, I do consider all people equal to start with. And then I look at the main thing to differentiate their worth in comparison to others; their compassion. A person with every privilege imaginable can be a good person, if they understand that privilege, and have proper and measurable compassion to those less privileged. A person with privilege who denies having any, on the other hand, is just an asshole. You’re playing the game of life on easy mode, and complain about those who are forced to play on hard mode for not liking you.
We are not going to solve racial inequalities by wallowing in the mistakes of the past. I’m not suggesting that we ignore them, but to focus on them rather than on moving forward is counter-productive. Morgan Freeman put it best when asked by 60 Minutes host, Mike Wallace, “How are we going to get rid of racism?” His response was “Stop talking about it. I’m going to stop calling you a white man and I’m going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace and you know me as Morgan Freeman.”
By the way, you lose points for referencing John Scalzi’s pathetic blog post.
And I repeat, racism is not “discriminating based on race” (before you reach for your dictionary, be aware that it was written by privileged people, AND that definitions of words change over time), you know, as if POC can in any tangible way discriminate against white people.
Although you’re right that words change meaning over time, racism is in common usage meaning ‘discrimination based on race’.
Discrimination is being treated as a problem case by default in school. Discrimination is having to jump through hoops to get an apartment. Discrimination is havign your job application turned down for having a ethnic name. Discrimination is being followed by store personel just based on your race. Discrimination is being stpped and searched by the police just from being the wrong type in the wrong place at the wrong time. Discrimination is being more likely to be found guilty inn courts, recieving tougher penalties, having lower chance for parole, and having a lower possibility of redemption after jail.
All you have done here is supplement the word ‘racism’ with ‘discrimination’, thereby contradicting your previous point. Regarding your current point, yes these things are terrible, no one is disputing this. What is being disputed is that it is still racism if a white person is a victim and that it is hypocrisy to argue against racism in one breath and to support any form of racial discrimination in another. Instead of identifying that digitaloverdrive’s accusation was unfounded, you jump in with your ridiculous liberal crusading.
